“You are an infidel, you deserve to die”
By Tom Quiner
“Dialogue with Islam is an illusion,” says Andrew Bieszad.
Mr. Bieszad “has an MA in Islamic Studies from Hartford Seminary with concentration in the Islamic equivalent of Dogmatic Theology. He is the author of Lions of the Faith: Saints, Blesseds, and Heroes of the Catholic Faith in the Struggle with Islam. He is a sought after writer and speaker on Islamic topics,” says his bio at the website www.OnePeter.Five.com.
He relates this conversation that took place on his first day of seminary at Hartford Seminary:
“I had done interfaith dialogue before, so this was not a new experience for me. We were separated into groups for the dialogue, and when I was permitted to speak, I said, “I am Catholic, and I do not believe in Islam.” Following me, one of the Muslim students spoke. She said that she was Muslim, and then she addressed me directly. In a soft, Arabic accented voice, she told me, “You are an infidel because you do not accept Islam. According to Islam, you do not deserve to live.” A second Muslim student heartily agreed, and after repeating the first student’s comments she added, “In Islam, the Koran and the tradition of the prophet are very clear about this. You deserve to die.”
Kind of tough to “dialogue” with a gun pointed at your head.
And yet I read all this talk about how bad Jews are. In this country, the Left reviles Christianity. These same folks doing all of the reviling of Judeo-Christian values bend over backward to make excuses for Islamic atrocities. The have adopted a position of “moral equivalency” which suggests that Judeo-Christian values are no better than Islamic ones because, after all, Christians and Jews do bad stuff, too.
How many people have Christians and Jews killed IN THE NAME OF GOD this year?
None.
How many people have Muslims killed IN THE NAME OF ALLAH this year?
2429 human beings are dead in the name of Allah, this year alone. In addition, another 2028 are wounded in 272 terrorist attacks and 37 suicide bombings.
Islam continues to terrorize the world in the name of Allah, and the Left makes excuses for them.
Read Mr. Bieszad’s entire piece to see what you’re up against.
[This blogpost is a rerun from August 7th, 2014.]
Yeah guys all muslims are out to get you with the exception of the 1 billion muslims who aren’t part of isis or part of any terrorist organization. Terrorism and radicalism are trying to rid the world of religion, and everyone is buying into their act.
Here is my question to you, MuslimGurl. In spite of the many peaceful Muslims, why are there so many other Muslims killing people people by the thousands in every corner of the world in the name of Allah? And why aren’t the peaceful Muslims speaking out and protesting against their murderous Islamic brothers and sisters? Why?
WE ARE SPEAKING AGAINST IT BUT NO ONE LISTENS!! PEOPLE DONT EVEN REPORT WHEN WE DIE BECAUSE WE ARE JUST THAT UNIMPORTANT TO THE MEDIA!!! It’s a sin to kill ANYONE!! ISIS is about 30,000 people, the rest are 1 billion muslims who don’t kill and are bullied everyday for what this cult is doing.
Me replying to this comment is my way of speaking out. Im not a mayor or a celebrity, how am i supposed to tell the world that Im a muslim who has read the Quran and as a result condemn this killing because it goes against the entire essence of the religion which is peace and justice.
Sir by hating on muslims you are only aiding isis in spreading hate. You are above that. They’re a bunch of morons walking around killing people and chanting “Allah” as a joke. If they cared about Allah so much they wouldn’t be killing his creation, they wouldn’t be killing people in their hometown who helped raise them.
I watch the news too, and Ive come across endless muslim-hating websites, so I know where you’re coming from. If I wasn’t a muslim myself i would hate me too.
I just want you to know that yes, theres so many “muslims” doing horrible things, but theres also many muslims doing good things.
If you google “muslims speak out” you will come across many of these good muslims who love this country and contribute to its growth everyday and many others from other parts of the world.
Here is one:
http://time.com/4112830/muslims-paris-terror-attacks-islam-condemn/
MuslimGurl, if you have read my blogs on Islam, I don’t “hate” on them, but I disagree with the violence perpetrated by Muslim terrorists who rape, behead, crucify, blow up, and gun down so-called infidels. You use a tactic of the political left by your use of that word, which is intended to shut down debate. I hate the crimes committed by people in the name of Allah, not the people. My Christian faiths call us on us to “love the sinner, but hate the sin.”
I do appreciate the link you provided which provides evidence that some Muslims are speaking out. I don’t accept your assertion that the America media somehow isn’t interested in shining a light on peaceful Muslims, as the Time Magazine article demonstrates. There just aren’t enough peaceful Muslims speaking out to create a critical mass. You need an Islamic peace movement that marches and protests and speaks out in large numbers against murderous Muslims. When that happens, the media will give you all the coverage you desire.
Thanks for writing.
Thank you for the clarification, I understand what you are saying but you are asking all Muslims to speak out, however thats like asking all Christian men to speak out against all the school shootings because a few of them happened to be by Christian men. I would never assume another Christian man would take a gun and go shoot anyone just because one happened to do so, everyone is different regardless of how they identify themselves. Also, I appreciate your open-mindedness, most people don’t bother to understand how complex the issue is and the many factors that go into it, so its nice to see someone who does research beyond what the media provides. And yes, I agree, I hate the crimes too.
Also, you said that the media portrays everyone equally? You hear about every single terrorist related action possible, but what about the ones against muslims who have nothing to do with terrorism? http://www.buzzfeed.com/davidmack/islamophobia-since-paris-attacks#.rjM8LpMlQn
Yes I believe we do need an Islamic peace movement, however we can not do that alone and we need our American brothers and sisters to work together with us in order to make that happen.
Thank you for having a blog that condemns these terrorist crimes, and I hope that more people come to realize that we can only solve this problem by working together rather than using it as a way to divide us.
Cannot agree more Tom, the websites are all very well but a few leaders condemning it is not enough, the Muslim communities have to be seen to be far more active with marches in the streets, advertising on big billboards, even within their shops and political statements as often as possible on major news sites that they do not tolerate ISIS or radical Islam.
Now is the time because this will be critical to peace and their long term relationship with the natives of the countries they live in. It is no good blaming the non-Muslim people for this problem, they have to become like western communities and actively promote their position.
By doing nothing they also play into ISIS hands because they project the attitude that some level of approval exists within the communities. They must also keep their own young people from radicalisation and prevent any terrorist funding through whatever means possible.
From my understanding Muslim Islamic people in general terms are more dedicated and strictly adhere to religious traditions and the word of the Quran, they also have more acceptance of an earthly death than any of the other religions. This is evident because they base their 5 daily prayers on living, dying and resurrection and lay so much emphasis on the belief in life after death that even a slight doubt means denying God and renders all other beliefs meaningless. From this I believe the religion is actually restricting their own attempts of preventing radicalisation of loved ones wanting to become martyrs from within their own communities.
There must be concerns within authorities and within the Muslim communities that even though most moderate Islamic Muslims abhor terrorist activity and do not agree with the terrorist enforcement of Jihad and just want to live in peace, many of them will be distancing themselves from offering public disapproval or criticism against anything Islamic because it is seen as totally unacceptable from practising Muslims and has serious consequences.
Discontent shown against anything Islamic that even includes ISIS may be regarded by many Islamic moderates as being unfaithful to the Islamic faith, seen as blasphemy or not accepting of the Islamic principles regarding jihad and the laws of the Quran even though they are not actively supporting the ISIS terrorist methods or extreme sharia laws.
As much as I understand this situation they have to make a whole hearted and public stand against the ISIS organisation or lose all credibility. If the terrorist attacks continue without a huge public demonstration against ISIS to show their true stance, sooner or later the public discontent and backlash may be massive against the Muslim communities.
Read the comments from MuslimGurl, Steve, which provides a Muslim perspective on my piece. Thanks for writing.