People don’t consider that MOST of the time if the school or day care calls for the kids to be picked up b/c of illness or other,it’s usually the mom. They don’t get that,usuallly mom is who will stay out w/ a sick kid, as she tends to be the one better suited to soothing a young child. That is not to say there aren’t nurturing men. I have worked with many. Most men I have known have little idea how to sooth a baby or child and can’t handle some of the more “icky” aspects of kids. I’m sure some men are better at it than the wife but not usually. I never baby sat or had younger siblings or cousins. I had no nurturing instincts for babies until I was almost 30. My hubby is 52 and still has none. He ADORES his kid and is very protective of her, other kids and even me. but he has no care giving ability AT ALL. Women tend also to be the ones that leave work to give birth. It may be as short as 6 weeks, but in some careers, that’s enough to be a difference several promotions.If she does it more than once she cant compete with a guy or gal who never did. You ad the extra “mommy stuff” in, and you get an employee who is just not going to be the “go to guy”.Most men I know have more stamina than a woman, and women with kids just tend to think about work a little less, even when they are there.This is not a bad thing. The mom that isn’t true of is probably doing a pretty bad job with the kid. Kids are important. I have been military, a critical care nurse and now an instructor. My mom job is number one now. Having done so many interesting things, I now really think one should be a mom then have the super career or the other way around. I haven’t seen it done at the same time very well. SOME may but I haven’t seen it. Both are full time and I don’t know many men making it a point to have 2 full time jobs and expect to be the tops at both. Why do so many women feel they must to prove they are a man’s equal? The only reason I get is that don’t feel the work of mom is important enough to get their full attention. When mine was ,tiny my hubby said I worked harder than he did, and he was a home builder. We had discussed the possibility of him staying w/ the baby at first. He saw the job in the first 6 weeks as I recovered from c-section and realized he would rather work 80 hrs/ wk than do my new job.When will mom be an honored job again?
Oh, it is honored, the question is by whom … or more accurately, who doesn’t honor it? You know whom: Marxist feminists. Religious conservatives respect and love moms, because they know they are the true civilizing agents of our society.
I was raised that if society is behaving badly its women that should be looking at the job they are doing. Women raise the little ones and determine the behaviors of men. I know today its sexist to say this, but when little ones misbehave its usually women doing the correction and men usually will do whatever it takes to get the gal of their choosing. Lately, it just doesn’t take much, does it? The old legend of Gilgamesh sort of eludes to the idea of a woman domesticating the wild Gilgamesh. Anyone that has ever seen the atmosphere of a men’s dorm or bachelor pad can attest to that theory. Weather its mom or a lady love, usually women determine the behavior of a man. I often say we women are as much to blame as any other societal entity for the behaviors of the males in our midst. Some woman somewhere has failed to teach or expect the proper behaviors. Certainly a great father is important to a man, but the earliest formative years seam to be overseen by women and the post childhood years are too. Its funny. In the modern age, with laws to support women, women have abandoned their duties of forming men.That defeats the purpose of the woman friendly laws. Women love to yell about how important we are to society and then they abandon the job of positively affecting the male world.
I’ll add one more thing. Since we’ve had such a mutually respectful conversation on Catholic matters, I’d like to point out the impact of Mary, the Blessed Mother, on Catholic men. A devotion to Mary nurtures such respect of women in men. Let me be clear, devotion does NOT connote worship. It suggests an embrace of THE most powerful of all intercessors, the Mother of Christ, whose entire mission in this life and the next is to draw the world closer to her Son. A Catholic man who loves Mary is a man who respects all women.
Yes, Tom, did we ever think we’d see the day where making public accommodations for nursing mothers would be criticized for “perpetuating gender stereotypes”?
We have a similar saying in the protestants. “real men love Jesus.” This is a point of child rearing women are also failing at. Lots of times the mom is the one urging everyone else to be attending church. I have never seen a dad use guilt or dirty looks to get the wife to church on a play off day. The Catholics I have known (especially the guys) spoke of it breaking their mom’s heart if they did not go to church regularly. A devout mom is a Catholic man’s conscience, isn’t she. It made me smile to think of big military men worrying about mom if they weren’t at church. The dads were also very important, having taught them how to be the men they should be when they stopped being little guys, but mom owned the hearts of these men. The end of regular church attendance, I cant help but see as yet more of the failings of modern moms in creating a woman friendly society. they spent all that time changing unfair laws and then stopped the important work they had been traditionally doing to guide society. Believe it or not, a couple of guys’ sweet Catholics moms were really crazy about me. The Puerto Rican guy’s mom called me Dejitta (sp?). Her culture was one that really emphasized the importance of having only the best gals be w/ the boys. I was dating the baby boy, so I was warned to not be upset if she didn’t like me. She really did. Other ladies found themselves being compared to me. Folks were shocked the Baptist girl had completely won the mom. In think she was under the impression I was Catholic and just didnt know it yet. I grew up attending church w/ friends if I spent the night. Unlike many in my family, i never discounted other Christian groups. I was married to a Mormon. We are divorced not b/c he was Mormon but b/c he turned out to mean and abusive. My “god family” is Mormon. I was a child in SLC, Utah. My point is i just dont get too wrapped up in what one is taught. Particulars of a faith are not really up for discussion w/ most people. We will all know the truth some day. we all do our best to follow the scriptures as best as we can understand them. But yes, religious men RULE!
People don’t consider that MOST of the time if the school or day care calls for the kids to be picked up b/c of illness or other,it’s usually the mom. They don’t get that,usuallly mom is who will stay out w/ a sick kid, as she tends to be the one better suited to soothing a young child. That is not to say there aren’t nurturing men. I have worked with many. Most men I have known have little idea how to sooth a baby or child and can’t handle some of the more “icky” aspects of kids. I’m sure some men are better at it than the wife but not usually. I never baby sat or had younger siblings or cousins. I had no nurturing instincts for babies until I was almost 30. My hubby is 52 and still has none. He ADORES his kid and is very protective of her, other kids and even me. but he has no care giving ability AT ALL. Women tend also to be the ones that leave work to give birth. It may be as short as 6 weeks, but in some careers, that’s enough to be a difference several promotions.If she does it more than once she cant compete with a guy or gal who never did. You ad the extra “mommy stuff” in, and you get an employee who is just not going to be the “go to guy”.Most men I know have more stamina than a woman, and women with kids just tend to think about work a little less, even when they are there.This is not a bad thing. The mom that isn’t true of is probably doing a pretty bad job with the kid. Kids are important. I have been military, a critical care nurse and now an instructor. My mom job is number one now. Having done so many interesting things, I now really think one should be a mom then have the super career or the other way around. I haven’t seen it done at the same time very well. SOME may but I haven’t seen it. Both are full time and I don’t know many men making it a point to have 2 full time jobs and expect to be the tops at both. Why do so many women feel they must to prove they are a man’s equal? The only reason I get is that don’t feel the work of mom is important enough to get their full attention. When mine was ,tiny my hubby said I worked harder than he did, and he was a home builder. We had discussed the possibility of him staying w/ the baby at first. He saw the job in the first 6 weeks as I recovered from c-section and realized he would rather work 80 hrs/ wk than do my new job.When will mom be an honored job again?
Oh, it is honored, the question is by whom … or more accurately, who doesn’t honor it? You know whom: Marxist feminists. Religious conservatives respect and love moms, because they know they are the true civilizing agents of our society.
I was raised that if society is behaving badly its women that should be looking at the job they are doing. Women raise the little ones and determine the behaviors of men. I know today its sexist to say this, but when little ones misbehave its usually women doing the correction and men usually will do whatever it takes to get the gal of their choosing. Lately, it just doesn’t take much, does it? The old legend of Gilgamesh sort of eludes to the idea of a woman domesticating the wild Gilgamesh. Anyone that has ever seen the atmosphere of a men’s dorm or bachelor pad can attest to that theory. Weather its mom or a lady love, usually women determine the behavior of a man. I often say we women are as much to blame as any other societal entity for the behaviors of the males in our midst. Some woman somewhere has failed to teach or expect the proper behaviors. Certainly a great father is important to a man, but the earliest formative years seam to be overseen by women and the post childhood years are too. Its funny. In the modern age, with laws to support women, women have abandoned their duties of forming men.That defeats the purpose of the woman friendly laws. Women love to yell about how important we are to society and then they abandon the job of positively affecting the male world.
Great input, Mrs. Knapp. Thanks for weighing in.
I’ll add one more thing. Since we’ve had such a mutually respectful conversation on Catholic matters, I’d like to point out the impact of Mary, the Blessed Mother, on Catholic men. A devotion to Mary nurtures such respect of women in men. Let me be clear, devotion does NOT connote worship. It suggests an embrace of THE most powerful of all intercessors, the Mother of Christ, whose entire mission in this life and the next is to draw the world closer to her Son. A Catholic man who loves Mary is a man who respects all women.
Yes, Tom, did we ever think we’d see the day where making public accommodations for nursing mothers would be criticized for “perpetuating gender stereotypes”?
Since liberalism has no foundation, no fundamental Truth associated with the philosophy, yes, I believe anything with that crowd. Anything.
We have a similar saying in the protestants. “real men love Jesus.” This is a point of child rearing women are also failing at. Lots of times the mom is the one urging everyone else to be attending church. I have never seen a dad use guilt or dirty looks to get the wife to church on a play off day. The Catholics I have known (especially the guys) spoke of it breaking their mom’s heart if they did not go to church regularly. A devout mom is a Catholic man’s conscience, isn’t she. It made me smile to think of big military men worrying about mom if they weren’t at church. The dads were also very important, having taught them how to be the men they should be when they stopped being little guys, but mom owned the hearts of these men. The end of regular church attendance, I cant help but see as yet more of the failings of modern moms in creating a woman friendly society. they spent all that time changing unfair laws and then stopped the important work they had been traditionally doing to guide society. Believe it or not, a couple of guys’ sweet Catholics moms were really crazy about me. The Puerto Rican guy’s mom called me Dejitta (sp?). Her culture was one that really emphasized the importance of having only the best gals be w/ the boys. I was dating the baby boy, so I was warned to not be upset if she didn’t like me. She really did. Other ladies found themselves being compared to me. Folks were shocked the Baptist girl had completely won the mom. In think she was under the impression I was Catholic and just didnt know it yet. I grew up attending church w/ friends if I spent the night. Unlike many in my family, i never discounted other Christian groups. I was married to a Mormon. We are divorced not b/c he was Mormon but b/c he turned out to mean and abusive. My “god family” is Mormon. I was a child in SLC, Utah. My point is i just dont get too wrapped up in what one is taught. Particulars of a faith are not really up for discussion w/ most people. We will all know the truth some day. we all do our best to follow the scriptures as best as we can understand them. But yes, religious men RULE!