How liberal women talk

By Tom Quiner

10478565_10152514191759916_6753725825563691006_nIf you disagree with liberal policy, you are a hater.

My ultra-liberal state legislator, Marti Anderson, posted the meme above on her Facebook page.

Here is a smattering of comments:

“No surprise, they HATE women in general, esp. low income ones.”

Talk about nuance.

For the record, I did not put ‘hate’ in caps, the responder did herself to emphasize her ignorance of conservatism.

Here are more:

“WTF? Aren’t there ANY sane Republicans??”

“Shame shame shame….shame on them!!!”

“Yes, sadly typical. Ladies we have to vote in every single election for a better country for all!”

“And no one was surprised. They always do. They claim it’s bad for business. So is paying wages but businesses manage to survive that horror. Guess they’ll keep on voting against it until Republican women wake up to outrage.”

“Every single one should be voted out of office. Wake up Republlican (sic) women they are controlling you all.”

Here is my somewhat expansive response:

“Marti, I expected better of you. It is true that the Obama White House pays his female employees 13% less than their male counterparts.

But when we distance ourselves from the phony rhetoric of the relentlessly insincere and ill-informed, we discover the argument is bunk.

A wage gap doesn’t exist, at least, not according to Obama’s Department of Labor. They studied it in real detail in 2009 and concluded:

“This study leads to the unambiguous conclusion that the differences in the compensation of men and women are the result of a multitude of factors and that the raw wage gap should not be used as the basis to justify corrective action. Indeed, there may be nothing to correct. The differences in raw wages may be almost entirely the result of the individual choices being made by both male and female workers.”

So what are some of these individual choices? Men choose different career paths. For example, men are more likely to pursue riskier jobs that pay more because of the danger inherit in the work, jobs such as construction work and iron and steel work.

Even more, men are more likely to go into high paying fields (by choice), such as computer and engineering fields, while women tend to go in more modest paying fields (by choice) such as health care.

Men are more likely to pursue jobs that pay more because the jobs demand evening and weekend work.

Men tend to stay in jobs longer, increasing their income over women who are more likely to interrupt their career to raise children.

Men work longer hours, on average 15 percent more than women. How could they NOT get paid more?

But here’s what is really interesting: the Census Bureau tells us that unmarried women who have never had a child actually earn more than unmarried men.

Is that a reflection of anti-male discrimination? Not really, because more women are going to college than men these days.

So, the implication that there is some sort of anti-women discrimination at work in society is simply false. So there is good news for America: the wage gap is a myth!

Even more, pay equity legislation has been on the books for half a century. The Equal Pay Act was signed into law by President Kennedy in 1963 after the House overwhelmingly voted in favor of the bill, 362-9. For the record, all 9 dissenters were Democrats.”

So far, no one has commented on my response.




  1. Shawn Pavlik on March 12, 2015 at 1:13 pm

    Zing! Liberals hate it when you confront them with the truth. My rule is “Truth is anathema to liberals.” Hit them with it and hit them hard. Probably also why atheists tend to gravitate towards the left; they don’t like to deal with truth, either.

    • quinersdiner on March 12, 2015 at 1:24 pm

      You’re right about the necessity to repeat the truth time and time again with liberals.

  2. xPraetorius on March 12, 2015 at 8:30 pm

    Great post, Tom! We’ve been addressing this one too for a bit too.

    It’s funny when you point out that there is no gap — when comparing apples to apples — and that when you actually analyze the actual pay of the two groups, you could make a compelling case that the only discrimination out there is against men and boys, in that the relentless push to feminize education has had a real, measurable deleterious effect on boys and men; both in their education, and, longer term, in their careers.

    No one, including me, wants to make that case, but the point is that it’s a more solid case than that there is any discrimination — wage-related or otherwise — against women.


    — x

    • quinersdiner on March 12, 2015 at 9:05 pm

      Great to hear from you, and thanks for the kind words. In support of your contention, here’s what we know: higher education employed affirmative-action standards for years, to the benefit of minorities (except Asians) and women. Now, men on average only represent some 44% of college admissions. Using the liberal standard of “disparate impact,” you’d think they’d be screaming for an affirmative action program for men. But of course, they won’t. We are not a protected class.

  3. stevegreer1 on March 13, 2015 at 7:55 pm

    And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how you destroy a liberal! Great job, Tom!

    • quinersdiner on March 13, 2015 at 9:35 pm

      Well, thanks, Steve. I know I failed to make a dent among the hardcore leftists. I hope a few moderate voters took notice and came away with a fresh, new perspective.