Democrats’ uncompromising support for intrinsic evil

By Tom Quiner

“Tom, if you don’t like abortion, don’t have one.”

This was the insincere advice I received from a liberal Catholic friend who votes Democrat. Always.

Then I heard from another liberal Catholic:

“Although I’m personally opposed to abortion, I can’t tell another woman what she can do with her own body.”

There are two implications in these statements:

  1. We need to show tolerance for women’s reproductive choices.
  2. Besides, it doesn’t affect you anyway.

The Catholic Church disagrees. The teachings of the Church make it clear that we’re made in God’s image, and that personhood and dignity is bestowed at the instant of conception. For any Catholic to turn away from this reality makes them complicit in evil.

But now it gets worse. Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party have made it clear that they view human abortion as a fundamental right for all women.

Their platform wants to crack down on sidewalk counselors who advise abortion-minded women of the consequences of aborting their child. Democrats want to end the practice to…

“combat any acts of violence, harassment, and intimidation of reproductive health providers, patients, and staff.”

In other words, they view these pro life humanitarians as terrorists-in-training rather than the living saints that they are.

Their platform calls for taxpayers to pay for human abortion:

“We will continue to oppose—and seek to overturn—federal and state laws and policies that impede a woman’s access to abortion, including by repealing the Hyde Amendment.”

In other words, if Hillary Clinton is elected, there is a good chance that Catholics and other Americans of good conscience will be forced to be complicit in the killing of their fellow Americans through taxpayer-funded abortion.

Hillary and Democrats want to go farther. They also want to repeal the Helms Amendment and use taxpayer dollars to pay for abortions in other countries, as stated in their platform:

“Safe abortion must be part of comprehensive maternal and women’s health care and included as part of America’s global health programming.”

Hillary has made it clear that any judges she appoints must pass a pro abortion litmus test.  Abortion rights are foundational to this candidate and her party.

Democratic Party pressure groups like the ACLU are waging a campaign to force Catholic doctors and hospitals to perform human abortion and sterilizations in conflict with their religious beliefs.

The threat looms, if Democrats retain the White House and regain control of Congress, to force dissenting Catholic hospitals to comply, or close; for Catholic doctors to comply, or go away.

Let us return to the two assertions made by Democrats above. While they insist on tolerance towards those who want abortions, they demonstrate intolerance for those who view it as the killing of an innocent human being.

While they once said abortion doesn’t affect us anyway, now they want us to pay for it. Hillary Clinton and her party want to make Catholics complicit in intrinsic evil. A vote for these candidates puts our very soul at risk.

They stand for evil without apology or compromise.

No Catholic can vote for a single candidate who supports these policies.





  1. d. knapp on October 25, 2016 at 9:43 pm

    These folks you know are just doing what they must to live in the sinful world we find ourselves in. This is the heart of Christ saying “You can’t serve 2 masters.” We as Christians are not supposed to get too comfy in the world. They dont understand the stories of the old testament Israel. They missed the part where every time Israel went into slavery, exile and woe, it was punishment for turning from the laws of God. That’s what we can expect, if we keep denying the laws of God. The progressives are big on the idea that America is not exceptional. We wont be if we keep kicking God out of the American society. I’m so sorry you were spoken to in that way. I can only imagine how it must have hurt your heart to have Catholics speak to you in that way. I wonder if thy actually are pro abortion ( lets face it that’s what pro choice is.) b/c they only see dems as the ones that care for the poor. Perhaps a misunderstanding of the kindness of conservatism is the genesis of this for them. I hope they arent actually Catholics for a woman killing a baby. I wonder if they have bought the left’s ideas that its just a lump of cells. Perhaps photos of a baby at 4-5 mos would help them see what is being destroyed in this country all the time….and RARELY for the physical survival of the mom. They will say its for the “health” of the mom but usually its the mental health. By this I mean she is unhappy about the situation and says she is depressed or anxious. For this they kill a baby, rather than give the mom mental health care (even inpatient) and any support she might need. A woman struggling financially and finding it hard to work (not every woman can-I couldn’t) should be given every financial, physical and psychological assistance needed to make it easier for her. Its one of the few cases I can support welfare for young (otherwise healthy) people. I wish we worked as hard to help a woman birth (if not keep) her baby as we do to help her kill it. I just know you can convince them if you find the right fetal photos and the right GOP platforms of helping the poor move up. GOOD LUCK!!

    • quinersdiner on October 25, 2016 at 9:52 pm

      Our respect life group put up 9 pics of the stages of the preborn, months 1 thru 9. It really makes a statement when parishioners see it every time they enter or leave the church. As for Catholics who vote Dem, they really believe that they stand up for the little guy, despite all evidence to the contrary.

      • d. knapp on October 25, 2016 at 10:29 pm

        You’re very intelligent and persuasive. I just know if you show the poverty levels in the GOP led states vs the DNC and show the refusal of the DNC to allow poor children to attend a school of their choice, even if they are in nonperforming schools,you could win them…IF they actually care about the poor and aren’t actually under some very frightening influence. The Father stated he would send strong delusions to those wished to be deluded. Do you think they may just not WANT to see the way of The Father? I don’t actually need an answer. Its just something to think of. My own heart was broken when a dear friend of mine I brought to Christ (she’s Vietnamese and raised in Budhism) and she later decided to reject Him and live a secular life(” religion is just an interesting topic to me now.”) Why one rejects the covenant w/ God, when they don’t claim to be atheists, I don’t know. Again I just know you can reach them if they aren’t TRYING REALLY HARD to NOT be reached. This is not a matter of canon. One either believes in God or not, and one is either Christian or not. The life of a human is sacred or not. I wonder if these folks would be ok w/ the killing of the sick and elderly. There are those that feel killing the sick and elderly is merciful. If one had tried to kill me as I was about to be ventilated or be put on dialysis…again, I’d have been really fighting it. The ones that feel the burdens of society are better off dead should know that one of us recovered and went on to save countless lives of patients “tanking” (as medical people say). I gladly say my time as an ICU patient has made me a kinder and more considerate ICU nurse. I think I fight just a little harder and pray just a little more than otherwise to save these really sick people. No ones life is a burden or w/o value.Who knows what wonderful people our country has killed…the inventor of a cure,a saint, a Godly president. People just don’t get that each of those little ones had a brain and a soul…an individual and unique one we will never see again.

        • quinersdiner on October 25, 2016 at 10:40 pm

          I think we’re all capable of being deluded. My Church and my wife help to keep me grounded. And of course my Quiner’s Diner readers! 😉

      • d. knapp on October 25, 2016 at 10:41 pm

        I’m curious what the presence of known supporters of abortion on demand at the charity dinner the other night says to Catholics? I’m not Catholic and was unhappy about it. I figure that no amount of good that might result from the $$ raised compares to the bad that comes from such a two-sided message. “Pro-abortion people are really bad unless they are raising $$ for us.” Its a bit like stealing from stores to feed the hungry. Actually not quite, but there’s really no comparison. I quit buying my favorite addictive substance (cookies) as I found the sales supply a certain amt. of $$ support for Family Planning. Even if the $$ doesn’t actually kill babies, I know the cookie money helps the people that do. I cant have a dime of my $$ I have a choice over go to that organization. I wish we could check things we dont want get our tax dollars. I check what I want my special offerings at church to cover. Something like that would be great. I suppose everyone would check to withhold $$ from the IRS; so I dont know how well that will work.

        • quinersdiner on October 25, 2016 at 10:50 pm

          Msgr. Charles Pope from the Archdiocese of Washington agrees with you. Here is his comment from a couple of years ago when Obama was invited:

          “The time for happy-clappy, lighthearted engagement of our culture may be nearing an end. Sometimes it takes a while to understand that what used to work no longer works. Let me get more specific.

          Decades ago the “Al Smith Dinner” was a time for Republicans and Democrats to bury the hatchet (even if only temporarily) and come together to raise money for the poor and to emphasize what unites us rather than what divides us. But in the old days the death of 50 million infants was not what divided us. We were divided about lesser things such as how much of the budget should go to defense and how much to social spending. Reasonable men might differ over that.

          But now we are being asked to raise toasts and to enjoy a night of frivolity with those who think it is acceptable to abort children by the millions each year, with those who think anal sex is to be celebrated as an expression of love and that LGBTQIA… (I=intersexual, A= Asexual) is actually a form of sanity to which we should tip our hat, and with those who stand four-square against us over religious liberty.”

      • d. knapp on October 25, 2016 at 10:46 pm

        Have you shown the photos of the little ones sucking their thumbs? I saw one that was rubbing the wall of the womb she was in. She seamed to be having a special moment w/ mom at 7 mos. gestation. They suck thumbs earlier and even fight w/ twin siblings. Its hysterical to see these guys fighting over space in the womb or “He’s touching me”.

        • quinersdiner on October 25, 2016 at 10:51 pm

          Yes, those photos are wonderful.

  2. d. knapp on October 25, 2016 at 10:56 pm

    Here’s a little piece of irony you may enjoy. My church supports a grp called Cobb Pregnancy Services, that just moved to a larger facility to help save the lives of more unborn babies. The facility was last a family planning facility. We even got a bargain. That grp does not try to make the most of the funds they have. Their financial carelessness was our blessing. When they realized who was buying (a law firm was used for obvious reasons) they tried to back out but it was too late. They knew that location would greatly increase the ability of CPS to serve the moms they convince to keep the baby. I really dont know if FP is so much in love w/ killing babies as much as it is just another way they make a little more $$. Either way, the outcome made me smile. God will use all things to his glory. Oh! The pain! The FP folks must’ve really been stinging!

  3. parrillaturi on October 25, 2016 at 11:17 pm

    What sickens me is the constant barrage, with respect to a woman’s reproductive choice. What about the innocent victim? What about its “Productive” choice, had it been allowed to live, instead of being murdered?

    • quinersdiner on October 26, 2016 at 5:57 am

      I like the use of the word “productive!” Thanks for writing!

      • parrillaturi on October 26, 2016 at 11:47 am

        Thank-you. Blessings.

    • quinersdiner on October 26, 2016 at 1:34 pm

      So, so true.

    • oarubio on November 8, 2016 at 2:26 pm

      I agree with Tom — good word!

      • parrillaturi on November 8, 2016 at 2:43 pm

        Hi. Haven’t seen you in a while. Blessings.

  4. d. knapp on October 25, 2016 at 11:33 pm

    Since The Vatican is supposed to to be the guidance of Catholics in their lives, do you ever see the papacy, cardinals and other priests publicly stating that a Catholic can’t take communion or receive absolution from sins if they are casting ballots for those advocating for abortion…especially on demand? I know the church would have no way to know but a devout Catholic would know that any communion or absolution received under those circumstances would be pretty much null and void. If the church is going to teach the importance of these services of the church to ones soul in eternity, wouldn’t it be a great way for the church to help defeat the idea its ok to vote for people pushing for this evil? I only ask out of ignorance of how the church deals w/ such things, not to ridicule it. Maybe it seams a bit mean spirited, but I just don’t know how the church gets around the stance it teaches on abortion and doesn’t do all it can to convince its followers they cant be involved in progressing it. The protestants don’t have such things to influence their followers…even us crusty SB’s. Christ would have definitely have made a person uncomfortable that he knew continued to sin or support sin. He forgave the sinner then said to “Go forth, and sin no more.” I wonder what his thoughts on the matter would have been. He said to preach the word and then brush the unbeliever off as the dust of our sandals if they won’t abide the word. I don’t think he would feel any different about a church member.I wish The Vatican would do as I suggest, but I dont know what the larger outcomes of that would be, so I just ask one who might. I think if The Vatican wants to consider me as part of the greater church it leads in the world, I’d like to hear some concrete advice as to how I should vote and live to influence the world around me. This goes for the SB’s. I’d like the SB’s to stop side stepping and get very specific about what voting for particular people (name them by name) means to ones Christianity. I know there are churches where preachers tell the congregation who to vote for on less significant issues. Rev. Jeromiah Wright was pretty specific. I want the followers of Christ to stop messing around. Bush once said “you’re either with us or against us…” I think its time the Christian church gets just that specific. Americans have the right to vote for abortion, but Christians DO NOT. I think Christians tend to forget we are supposed to be Christians even before we are men, women and Americans.

    • quinersdiner on October 26, 2016 at 10:16 am

      Occasionally, but too rarely, a priest or bishop will speak out against a politician peddling abortion and warn them not to partake of communion. I have noticed an increase in public commentary from U.S. Catholic bishops and priests on the subject of human abortion and how it is unacceptable to vote for such candidates. The mainstream media won’t give it any coverage, though. I’m hearing most of it from reliable Catholic sources. There are two sources non-Catholics will appreciate: and the National Catholic Register (