A glimpse into the dark side of the blogosphere

By Tom Quiner

“You are a typical caucasian racist a#*hole.”

Jamie Foxx on the MTV Awards

Jamie Foxx at the MTV Awards

This is the response I received yesterday upon visiting a blog called “The Obamacrat.”

The Obamacrat had put up this post:

“Jamie Foxx attended the MTV Movie Awards on Sunday night to accept the 2013 Generation Award. He did so while wearing a shirt that had the phrase “kNOw Justice” above photos of Trayvon Martin and the Newtown kids.

Many intelligent humans would view Jamie Foxx’s shirt as a way a celebrity can bring awareness to America’s young people and remind them that justice has not yet been served for our country’s young victims of gun violence.

Sadly, many humans lack this intelligence… “

The blog proceeded to share some hateful twitter responses to Mr. Foxx’s T-shirt message from some racists, messages too unsavory to share here verbatim, messages any liberal or conservative would decry. Here is an edited sample:

“F%*k that nig^&*r with the trayvon martin shirt on!”

So there is no disagreement between Quiner’s Diner and the Obamacrat so far.

I have to admit that I was put off by Foxx’s T-Shirt which tries the Trayvon Martin case in the court of public opinion. My view is let the accused have his day in court before convicting him and declaring sainthood on the late Mr. Martin. The media bias on the shooting of Mr. Martin was off-the-charts, and Mr. Foxx feeds into the thirst of some to fan the flames of racism.

I didn’t respond directly, but rather commented on another case with racial implications, the Dr. Kermit Gosnell trial which involves the deaths of African-American babies:

“If only Mr. Foxx had acknowledged all the babies killed by abortionist, Dr. Kermit Gosnell, in Philadelphia, most of whom were African-American. Over a hundred babies killed, four times the number in Newtown. Why does the media ignore this injustice? Why does the president refuse to speak out on behalf of these little and powerless victims? Why?”

The Obamacrat responded with his characteristic aplomb:

“If only all you dumbasses would be able to keep your f#*&ed up issues separate….what the f%*k does a man wearing a tee shirt bringing attention to the murder of a 17 year old child by a racist caucasian wanna be a#*hole have to do with abortion? God you f%&*s are stooooopid.”

Another person responded, not to me, but to one of the racist messages earlier in the post:

“I admire him [Foxx] for speaking out on a crucial issue, but this sickening hateful response is shocking and disgusting and depressing.”

The Obamacrat brought it back to me:

“Yes, racist a#*holes, like this quiners person … are disgusting & sickening.”

Let us desconstruct the Obamacrat’s logic. A white man [me] who laments the killing of post-abortive African-American babies is the equivalent of profane racists who wish harm on a black man.

Okay.

And then the way to respond to hateful white racists [alluded to at the top of the post] is with profane, hateful, racist  rhetoric of your own.

Okay.

A day in the life of the blogosphere.

23 Comments

  1. ellen peterson on April 16, 2013 at 11:33 am

    It’s impossible to have a civil conversation with an emotionally puffed up person… much like trying to reason with a toddler in mid-tantrum.
    I doubt your words were actually read… but at least you tried.



  2. concernedonlooker on April 16, 2013 at 12:29 pm

    Probably would have got the same response if you posted, “I’m white and I think you’re right.”

    If you’re exposed to an environment of hate long enough, you’re bound to get sucked into it. Add in a little victim mentality, and now it’s always going to be someone else’s fault. The facts are irrelevant.



  3. Lisa Bourne on April 16, 2013 at 12:59 pm

    God bless you Tom, for having such patience and showing God’s love for such people. Not all of us can say we do or would do the same. The blogger, and so many like him or her, are the very equivalent on the left of what they so viciously and maliciously bash on the supposed right, and yet they have no clue what’s in the mirror. It’s really much easier to dismiss such people, and for some, even easier to join in the cowardly practice of anonymous smearing via social media. God bless you for taking time and energy to reason with and educate them. You stand head and shoulders above most.



    • quinersdiner on April 16, 2013 at 1:36 pm

      Thanks for the kind words. I knew my efforts with this guy probably wouldn’t go anywhere, but sometimes you’ve just got to take the shot.



  4. Shawn Pavlik on April 16, 2013 at 2:58 pm

    Unfortunately, it will be a long time until the blacks ever get over their hatred of whites and take a good honest look at what conservatism has to offer them. If that ever happens, the liberals will no longer be able to count on getting that 90% of the African American vote.



    • quinersdiner on April 16, 2013 at 3:04 pm

      I’d be careful with stereotyping blacks as hating whites. No doubt some do, but a whole lot don’t. Liberal politics that paint blacks as victims certainly poisons the attitudes of many blacks. But my experience with the African-American community has been positive with no indication of hatred toward whites.



      • Shawn Pavlik on April 16, 2013 at 10:22 pm

        Sorry, I should have said “black leadership”, like Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton. Jackson is a bigot himself, for example, calling New York City “Hymietown”. And then there’s the king of bigots himself, Louis Farrakhan. That man can’t open his mouth without hatred spewing out. Blacks need to throw these people overboard, and start listening to black conservatives like Thomas Sowell, JC Watts, Alan West, Herman Cain, Condi Rice, Larry Elder, or Ben Carson.



  5. sally1137 on April 16, 2013 at 3:41 pm

    Who knew it was hateful and racist to want to prevent the killing of babies?



    • quinersdiner on April 16, 2013 at 3:53 pm

      Sally, that is a very good question. I never knew I was so off base. The Obamacrat helped me see the light!



  6. violetwisp on April 16, 2013 at 8:39 pm

    The style of expression may dismay your cultural sensibilities, but, seriously, what does a man wearing a t-shirt bringing attention to the murder of a 17-year-old, have to do with abortion? Obamacrat was making a serious and valid point.



    • Karen Quiner on April 16, 2013 at 9:42 pm

      I see your point Violet. On one level, they don’t really have much to do with each other. The point though, is that the world gets upset by the killings at Newtown and the supposed injustice against Travon Martin, while turning a blind eye to the slaughter of millions of innocent victims.

      But, the case can be made that we can’t fight all the battles every time, so I can see your point. Jamie Fox can’t be expected to deal with all of the important issues of the day on his t-shirt.

      But I have to take great exception to giving any credence or respect to the Obamacrat. He is an ugly, seriously ugly, and ignorant man.

      How in the world he can take Toms comments and make them racist, along with his stupid and foul language shows he isn’t the sharpest tool in the shed.

      I would have to think that you have a lot more going on upstairs than that man does.



      • violetwisp on April 17, 2013 at 4:59 pm

        As far as I’m concerned, cultural use and choice of language is of no interest, and indeed no relevance, when it comes to intelligence. People show their understanding of the world through the expression of ideas, and the point Obamacrat was making was correct. Tom is trundling his political pro-life agenda into irrelevant areas – and that is a clear indication to me of what’s ‘going on upstairs’.



      • Karen Quiner on April 17, 2013 at 5:56 pm

        People who use foul and ugly language like the Obamacrat uses are unsure of their position and don’t know how to formulate their thoughts. What he said didn’t even make sense. If you can’t disagree with someone without insulting them and cursing, it is because you don’t have any other tools in your shed.

        In addition, if you read what Tom said, there was no whiff of racism in his comments. Tom is not racist. I would guess that he is less racist than the Obamacrat because he makes assumptions about Tom based on the color of his skin. White liberals like to agree with people like him just to feel good and prove they aren’t racist.

        You can maybe make the point that abortion didn’t have anything to do with the point Jamie Fox was trying to make, but as Shawn Pavlic asked, what does the death of a 17 year old in Florida have to do with the deaths of the Newtown children?



    • Shawn Pavlik on April 16, 2013 at 10:16 pm

      Well, what does the death of a 17 year old in Florida have to do with the deaths of the Newtown children?



    • Lisa Bourne on April 17, 2013 at 3:36 pm

      Filthy and abusive language has nothing to do with cultural sensibilities. George Zimmerman has not been convicted of murder. The Trayvon Martin case has had plenty of attention brought to it. I venture the possibility that Jamie Foxx desires nothing so much as to bring attention to himself, apparently without regard for stirring up hatred. What should be clear is that certain people are selective in who’s life is deserving of justice.



  7. concernedonlooker on April 17, 2013 at 7:46 pm

    Guns…

    The common denominator is guns.

    Know Justice, Know Peace…
    Abortion is “Just” in the eyes of the liberal in that it’s “Just” that a woman not be told what she can do with her body. And “Peace” refers to doing what is just, in the eyes of a liberal.

    It’s as simple as that. But it’s always possible I missed the point. Afterall, I am simply a concerned onlooker.



    • Shawn Pavlik on April 17, 2013 at 10:00 pm

      Kind of a rambling response….

      Guns are not the problem in America. Look at our cities with our strictest gun laws, like New York City, Chicago, or Washington DC and you will see that gun violence is way up. Look at places like Dallas or Houston, areas with lax gun laws and gun violence is way down. It is not guns that are the problem, but rather WHO has the guns. All it would take to limit tragedies such as Newtown or Columbine would be an armed citizen with the right intent, to protect the innocent.

      Regarding abortion, calling it “just” is ridiculous. We’re not telling a woman what she can do with HER body. She made that choice herself. We are telling her what she should be able to do with the body growing INSIDE. We are depriving that human being of life without due process.



      • quinersdiner on April 18, 2013 at 7:42 am

        Absolutely.



      • concernedonlooker on April 18, 2013 at 10:38 am

        I agree with you…110%!

        Obviously I’m not a liberal.

        I was only giving my analysis of what Mr. Foxx’s shirt was possibly trying to say. If that wasn’t it, oh well.



      • Karen Quiner on April 18, 2013 at 10:50 am

        I knew what you were saying concerned onlooker, and almost went in and defended your honor, but figured you would and could do it better yourself. 🙂 I can understand why Shawn was confused by your message. But since I know who you are, I knew what you were saying.
        Have a great day.